Viva le CoD4!

Nice Blog stephen

BTW, if Pantheon think they can totally outplay us after beating us once in like 2 years(we won just about every comp last year) then they're being silly. But like said, they played well and put the hours in, and deserved the win.

Bring it pantheon ))

Don't say that, they'll go prac till 3AM

Haha, <3 pantheon )

I honestly dislike reading an article where a team only gives excuses why they didn't win. At some point credit must be given where credit is due.

You guys have been dominating the COD4 scene over the past year and even a win against you guys when you are underperforming is no mean feat. Of course the scoreline indicates there was something wrong on your side, but blaming your loss totally on yourselves is not fair on Pantheon either. I know Pantheon were struggling on crash prior to your match so for them to have turned the tables and not allowed you guys to put your normal strategies into practise and keep you out of the game as the match progressed is a great achievement.

miNt struggled in our first two games and we tried our best to give credit to the other teams. We could have made excuses like, the lineup changes are taking time to get used to in terms of positioning and gelling. I think we lost the first 5 rounds in both matches which is pretty much proof of this, or blame our draw to Pantheon on tweek being unable to play for us because of some screw up between us and AGASA and the fact that Marius and I have swapped roles just days before, but we tried not to do this because we and they did infact play well.

I guess this type of attitude that you mention is down to the mentalities in the respective teams and their captains. Even though there is an intense rivalry between us and the other teams we try to acknowledge and respect their achievements even if we ourselves had shortcomings.

lol nice blog i quess.

personally i dont think we have *figured you out*.. cod is always changing with strats or nades and teamplay is always improving. u could of had a bad game.. but i still think every game we have will be close and hopefully exciting.

"I firmly believe that man-for-man our players are better than theirs and that if our team plays at 100%" i dont agree with this obviously ;p i think all of pantheon and BvD Players Skill lvl is fairly equal.. " if you think about it I would be a bad leader if I didn't think that way " but i also understand this ;D

Vitro. suprize butsekz this weekend tbh

You wonder why the community has a total lack of respect for you guys. And just when I thought everyone had got through that phase, here it pops up again. Nice one.

both teams did well ?

This is a blog not an article ;P

roskii, your reply is so stupid and single-minded that I don't feel that I should even bother retorting properly - but I guess I will anyway. What I will say is that if you think "the community" (I think you must mean the majority of the community) has a total lack of respect for us, then you are either deluded, severely misinformed or just plain stupid.

<3 you Gary, I knew you would understand. The whole point of the BLOG was to give people some insight into how I/we think. I knew some people wouldn't like it or approve of it, but there it is, slap bang the truth - this is how we think and part of why we have achieved what we have. I didn't ask you to respect it or to like it, I just wanted to share. I also predicted that some people would think I was arrogant, but because it was a BLOG I chose not to make it politically correct and I gave my full, unadulterated opinion. I think that some readers might have found it enlightening and at the very least, interesting

Roskii, before you make such unfounded statments about us you should also realise that your CoD4 team has a very similar mindset and this is what makes them one of the best cod4 teams in the country and our fierce arch-rivals

Sure they might not publicize it as much as we do, but I know all of them pretty well and we are more similar than you would like to realise - and P.CoD4 is your probably your most successful and active division.

In my opinion your reply is completely foolish, but I know you choose to live in your own little world where Pantheon reigns supreme and you are the omniscient member of the local gaming community.

Knowing the Pantheon.CoD4 team better than you do, I would be really surprised if they weren't embarrassed by your comments and I genuinely wonder why they continue to let you represent them.

not going to reply to this again, its a blog, think of it what you will

I am not going to comment on this blog much, All i am going to say that it is one of the most arrogant blogs I have ever read. I am in no way embarrassed by roskii's comments, and I do in fact agree with him.

Stephen, I've actually lost a little respect for you. From my perspective, it looks like bvd's ego took a hit when you guys lost to Pantheon. Learn to take a loss on the chin. Yes, bad performance happens but writing a "blog" to make yourself feel better or to defend your loss is utterly retarded. I remember when sG beat you guys in the IC ONC, it was the same story , "We played so badly etc etc.." Take a loss on the chin, and work harder. "Blogs" like this can only harm your reputation and what people think of you. I don't know what you hoped to accomplish with this "Blog". I have never enjoyed brazen's ego and arrogance, and this "blog" only encourages this feeling.

When it comes to winning and losing, its a simple definition. Look at the CiC7 system. In the eliminations, people dont care if you won 13 - 1 or 13 - 11, it shows as a 1 - 0 win. End of it.

Whether you played bad or good. People lose. I find it slightly annoying that you felt the need/reason to write a blog about it. Its not like Dignitas wrote a blog about losing to [R] first round of elims? So what, the game goes on. Its not like respect for Dignitas's level of play has dropped in anyones mind.

Same for you guys. You lost, and I can understand it must be annoying that the whole community is now chirping you for losing. But tbh, for people to be trolling so much about two teams means something.

Top team in SA. End of it. Win or lose no one can take it from you.

gg wp.

You got one thing right Vitrolic, Pantheon reigns supreme

People must realise that this is not an article that is posted to the community, as fact. This is a blog, written by one person on the views of his or her perception of the game. Maybe his teammates or friends disagree with him? That doesn't stop 1 person from giving his opinion on a blog.

And by the way, in my opinion every team that has a competitive edge has a very positive and strong reality and mindframe, its just sad that no1 has the balls to write what they think.

I agree that this blog is full or arogance, and i have told stephen this aswell, but on the other side

this is a blog, this is how stephen and his team feel, DEAL WITH IT.

this is a trademark shown in all levels of top performers in sport

you might not like alot of what is said, but that mindset is ussualy what keeps team at the top,

ie. I hate christiano from soccer, hes as arrogant as can be but yet he is the best........ and that mindset forces him not to loose and to always bet the best

iam one of stephens very good friends and although we share a few different views on this article i cant help but comment on other peoples comments. its his blog, its their website, its how they feel, and unfortunatly for everyone else its made them be the best 99% of the time they have been in prem.

Mint krimz please dont talk about respect between teams you have not spoken a word to me since my team has changed and im sure you know why.

HATE THE GAME NOT THE PLAYERS
my 2 cents will be commented on im sure

I think this should just be left to the two teams involved... Honestly

Its just a BLOG. Let the man experience his opinion And i'm sure a lot of us disagree, but at the end of the day, he writes what he thinks.

Vitrolic is arrogant.
Vitrolic also captains the best results-based CoD4 team in SA.
Vitrolic continues to strive for perfection.

Do you?

Steve, i Really don't know what to say. This is the most arrogant thing Ive ever read, and to be completely honest, didn't expect it from you. So what you lost one game, is your ego so badly bruised that you need to justify it? I know its simply a blog, but then again the purpose of a blog is for others to read it. I just didn't think the justification was needed, to be honest no one really cares. Win or lose, you guys are still One of the top teams around. This wasn't needed. Should you feel you need to express yourself buy a diary, but writing this up on your teams website just looks like a horrible excuse.

:/ < ---- Disappointed face.

Liver, I say hi to you every time I see you on CSS on the same server as me and you don't respond, same went for the only pickup we have played together since then. I even asked tweek about this and the chances of us all playing in a team for future Frags.

I don't think we can compare this to sport. Usually those teams try very hard to seem at least a bit diplomatic and definately do not say their players are better than another team even if they are known to be much weaker (unless your maybe Australia). I understand the mindset if this was used to pump up your team in team chat and get them ready for a huge match or something like that because being afraid, lacking confidence or dwelling on past performances is a bad thing. However openly publishing it in a blog and showing it is how you actually feel toward your opposition is just in plain bad taste.

Unfortunately this does reflect on the whole team because of Vitro's position as in Brazen.

BTW can the time on the site be fixed to gmt+2.

Oh, wow. It seems Stephen has hurt some fweelings If there is one thing I have come to realise is that every person in the competitive gaming world lives with a very self-centered point of view or perspective - how can they not in the social isolation we call the internet.

I love how people react so emotionally to this kind of writing, so what if he is arrogant? Who cares? I do not understand why you would take any offense from something as light as this, it seems to me like you are all being over-sensitive. As for roskii talking down on our reputation, take heed of what Stephen says in regards of your own teams attitude, if you want to speak so strongly against us, know that in my mind you come off as satan's advocate. If you disagree then do so, but why attach any emotion to this kind of situation - USE YOUR LOGIC.

Kr1mZoN, we'll set up a time off-set ASAP... thanks for notifying us

um who are you in css??

Very boring blog im afraid, However in terms of the arogence in the article i honestly have no problem with it, you need to be confident to win and be the best (even though i dnt know these cod4 noobs ). I follow the same mind set, I just dnt think people need to hear it, especially in a blog lol

HAHAHA, serious panda, have some pity on steve its an interesting topic and jeez i have no clue what topic i will write my blog on.

PS: steve write what you feel bro

2PS: pantheon i rate u guys deserved the win, u were on top form and witchcraft was there.

oh and roskii, please dont generalise stephens opinion on the team, i do not even know who you are, but, **** ***

Want more controversy! haha, guess you wrote what most teams think at the end of the day when they lose. All about those one or two rounds that they lost through stupidity and under-performance. The reality is the loss happened, whether it was the other teams good plays or your stupid error(s) that resulted in the loss, its good sportsmanship to acknowledge their game. I think you've just expressed a very personal feeling, one that I've dealt with many a time, whereby you believe you lost the game as oppose to them winning.

So both ballsy and stupid for coming out with this, its a hard line to take, but at the end of the day you can only acknowledge your opponents feets for so long, until you have to evaluate what you did wrong and make corrections.

Just keep it real gents, no sense in getting upset over a game that has happened! P.S. remember gents, there is always another game! To be a real winner, you have to know how to take a loss first.

Dane you're just so sexy.

thanks my boy!~

Mr word Smith me thinks you could have found a more accurate word than beat in your "Pantheon beat us" sentence.

It really irks me to read posts like this where players say they lost because they played badly, whether it be on dogaming or anywhere for that matter, it's just bad sportsmanship. You don't see rugby, soccer or even cricket players whining in interviews or blogs about how badly they played and they should have won the game if only they didn't play so badly. Go down to your local boot camp or anything that might build your character and while you are there you might look into learning some decorum too.

I think you should take a look at the people defending the arrogance of this blog. Only good old Bvd CoD players and one or two other cool guys. What a coincidence.

I think you should take a look at the people defending the arrogance of this blog. Only good old Bvd CoD players and one or two other cool guys. What a coincidence.

I can see a pattern of pantheon players on the other side of the argument. Hypocracy?

Much respect to both Bvd/brazen and pantheon.Brazen dominated SA cod4 community in 2009 ( hands down) but not once did pantheon show unethical behavior or bad sportsmanship. Brazen will still be respected as the one of the top cod4 teams in SA.

<3 mikey

These are the days of our lives!

Vin there is a difference between arrogance and confidence, I think you have yet to find that balance.

Earlier you mentioned who care's if he is arrogant? Arrogance is not a quality most people strive for.

Hippocrates or Hypocrisy? My friends, we are at an impasse.

Ok guys, Case closed. Its a blog not a debate
peace.

AWE SHOW DEM

Hypocrisy

Yo I'm pretty new to the cod4 scene but I do feel i have to share my opinion on this.

Vintrolic you are extremely arrogant... but don''t ever lose that arrogance it is the one thing that will keep you guys where you are and get you further!!

So damn what if some or most people hate you for your opinion? Jelousy much? I don't know about half of the people playing competitive but if the clan I am in got to prem and took home the gold almost every single time I'd be even worse(possibly more gracious but that doesn't matter atm) and I bet that anybody with even a bit of self worth would think less of another where this type of thing is concerned as he is not tuning anybody on a personal level it is purely where the eSport is concerned.

Thumbs up, good read(although it has a bit of disgust ) and all of the best in future!!!